Achim pestle as a fully non-animal food
Achim pestle in an interview with Stephan Karkowsky
The Hessian animal rights activist and science . fiction author Achim pestle is one of the most uncompromising vegan Germany's non-vegan friends, he did not because he "for example, not racists as friends" have
Stephan Karkowsky. For the last part of the "radio feature" series "Animals "eat, we have invited a Hessian animal rights activists. Achim pestle writes science fiction stories and heard in the presence of the most radical and uncompromising vegans Germany. Good morning, Mr. pestle!
pestle Achim: Yes, good morning, Mr. Karkowsky!
Karkowsky: I was able to learn that there are fewer than 80,000 vegans in Germany - are now one of them. What you eat and what you do not eat?
pestle: I eat basically everything except animal products, that is, of course, no bodies, so parts of dead animals, and of course no eggs, no dairy, no honey, and so on.
Karkowsky: cream, cottage cheese is made of all this?
pestle: the fall in the non-vegan Version of, yes, but there are of course all in a vegan version based on plants, so soy milk, rice milk, spelled milk and so on, mutatis mutandis, Quark, with tofu, the German term for tofu is yes soybean curd, from there you can the well as quark Alternative For example, use.
Karkowsky: How do you keep it as with other animal products, that is, leather shoes, furniture, feather boas and so on?
pestle: Well, of course, is not a vegan diet, as is often believed, but this is a way of life that relates to all areas of life. That is, I do wear leather shoes, for example, no. In the diet, which is of course so far in the foreground, as most people eat often several times a day even what, while shoes and sofas are not purchased very often.
Karkowsky: Only once in such demand for practical reasons: it is not a hindrance in the winter, to wear leather shoes?
pestle: No, no, so that's no problem. So, I'm wearing at the moment not even the cliché canvas shoes, as there is now even better by technology essential materials as animal skin. So, not only for ethical reasons, but also quite pragmatic reasons, this is not at all necessary.
Karkowsky: But I suppose the ethical Reasons you are in the foreground, right? Why you do this, why are you vegan?
pestle: Yes, of course, the ethical reasons are the reasons why I'm vegan, simply because by just Unveganismus animals are killed. Animals are imprisoned for their lives normally, and then just killed, and I do not wish for me to have that animals are killed for me. And finally I want a society where this does not happen in principle.
Karkowsky: And there will certainly be relied on often, that now belongs to the cultural history of the people to ensure that we not only farmers, but pet owners are - what do you say?
pestle: Yes, we are now - at least some of us - from the caves out there and not have to behave in Cro-Magnon-level us. So it was quite done previously, to do other things that are no longer so common. A classic example: slavery is frowned upon today as widely and as good as - and I say again - abolished. This refers to the human slaves, but to the non-human slave is just as hard to use and needs to close.
Karkowsky: Tell me something about your daily life: How easy or how hard is it, the vegan ethics in everyday life consistently endure?
pestle: Yes, this is now not a problem anymore. So when I started about 19 years ago with the veganism, it was not quite as easy as I had been driving a few miles, for example, to get soy milk - available today in any discount store. And otherwise, so it's really not a problem, and of course there are now lots of experience. If one has once made a while, then that's just life and you do not really notice it in the rule.
Karkowsky: How do you deal with people who are not vegan, you have as friends?
shocks: non-vegan friends, I do not have, no, so I'm not racists, for example, also as friends. That would be me not just with people who kill animals to eat them, for example, be friends.
Karkowsky: But a man has not a much more complex personality than to reduce it to this state of affairs of the Unveganismus?
pestle: If a man is not a much more complex personality than to reduce it, for example, on the facts of fascism? So I would not be a neo-Nazi, for example, friends, even if the example is somehow socially engaged for disadvantaged children.
Karkowsky: You hear Achim pestle, as we Vegans have invited "to eat animals" in our series. Mr. pestle are, because some things for you simply impossible, such as visiting a restaurant, where among other things, animal products are used?
pestle: would be impossible or is not sure, I would like, however, I personally do not like it. There are many vegans who do that, then just in one, I'd say, eat something normal restaurant vegan then. I am personally uncomfortable. So. I go, for example, not in a morgue and lick then on the stretchers, so that would be me just unpleasant. And I want to eat not even being close to people The push now because, for example, any dead animals in the mouth if can avoid it.
Karkowsky: Would you buy in shops for shoes, jeans and winter coats, if also have the leather products and skins on offer?
pestle: Yes, this is the moment to make the current situation in much the same as almost everywhere unvegane products are sold, except in a few vegan, vegan in mail order. Since there is only vegan products, but this is quite rare, and that is not enough really.
Karkowsky: is living consistently so basically something that should be before we have respect. How you met since the society show the people understand?
pestle: This is quite different. So many shows understanding, say that they would also like to make, many are vegan due to contact with me, of course, yourself, to understand this at all, of course. So there can not be said somehow flat.
Karkowsky: Well, our series "eating animals" excited by the two vegetarian books by Karen Duve, and Jonathan Safran Foer, "eat properly" and "eating animals". Since yesterday, the authors in a twin in Germany on tour. Are you really happy that these books make people aware of the injustice against animals?
pestle: Well, for one, the effect is of course that is being discussed in the media, now here, this is of course a positive effect. The consequence, or rather lack of consistency, the two authors is of course a very different aspect. Because of course, a door is opened, opened a door for inconsistency, for animal exploitation - and that's what it is so, what is actually abolished.
Karkowsky: But you should vegetarians but still be better than meat eaters, right?
pestle: There is really no essential difference. So, whether the victims are eaten or not is irrelevant here. Vegetarians are just as killer as all Unveganer. For the egg, the male chicks are gassed or equal vermust Schlüpftag on and killed the hens for a year because the so-called egg production declines, although life expectancy is 20 years. And about the life expectancy of cattle because it is similar. The cattle must of course every year to get pregnant, the cows ...
Karkowsky: In order to produce milk.
pestle: ... to produce milk, exactly. Yes, they are then killed after about four years, the calves may be caused to each year, of course, mutatis mutandis, to the extent it does not represent even if they are female, are used for milk production.
Karkowsky: It could be argued that there were these animals not know if they were not bred for food production.
pestle: That is correct. Would it be ok to breed slaves, just to get these slaves exist? A non-existing creatures, before it begins to exist has, indeed no interest. The organisms if they exist then may be well interests, and their interests, their right to life and so on is massively violated by Unveganismus.
Karkowsky: What do you think - and the question, you know, of course - from Animals, the animals eat?
pestle: Well, this is so that, for example, male lions eat their own children or the children of other lions, that is of course no excuse that we do. One child, for example, three years, with the hunting rifle his father shoots a playmate, can not comprehend what it is doing there, and is treated so by the laws accordingly. And the same is true also about a chimp who surely knows not what he is doing, if he kills another monkey.
Karkowsky: So man, as rational beings should behave fundamentally different than other animals?
Strikes: This ability to do that - anyone who knows that it is possible, actually has the obligation to do so.
Karkowsky: What about the plants, who are also living beings? There is the Zellularbiologen Frantisek morphogenesis of the University of Bonn, who says plants have even more meaning as people, and some are even safe ethnobotanist, plants have a soul. Why not make any difference?
pestle: Yes, that is a soul exists in itself anyway not, neither in plants nor in animals. So, I'm an atheist and do not believe such a thing as a soul. If you sense or something like that so think this is something very different, but I think there is shown quite wrong. These so-called sense, no sense in the perception of importance. So I think a carrot is studied sufficiently to be able to say who has no conscience, who has no interests, and therefore there is not any need to consider their right to life be considered. Situation is quite different about a chicken that does have a life interest.
Karkowsky: As an animal rights activist, so you have a mission, you want to convince people. How often do you do that?
pestle: I can say bad. So much of our educational work yes of course, take place today on the Internet, and there are of course not always a feedback, so that people say, yes, I've become vegan now, but quite often. So just by our article "Vegetarians are murderers" are very many people become vegan, since it is precisely because the penny has dropped, because they have since realized that it's wrong what they do and they have since changed their behavior accordingly. And some of the report then, and I absolutely can not estimate how many have become vegan because without us to say that.
Karkowsky: And a final question, Herr shocks: What have you got for lunch today?
pestle: Since I have nothing planned. Yesterday, if you are interested, since I had a very simple tomato-noodle casserole.
Karkowsky: The science-fiction author Achim pestle is one of the most uncompromising vegan Germany, and he has clearly demonstrated in this conversation, for which I thank you very much!
pestle: Yes, thank you too!
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